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Attribute set organisation
Dave1
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November 20, 2013 - 11:23 pm
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I believe that once you have set a product up, you can’t change the attribute set. So you need to get it bang on first time with regards to how everything is organised.

With that in mind, what’s the best set up for attribute sets?

I was initially going to set them up with similar products grouped together (like the sample data). But then I realised that I could just one attribute set with all the attributes in it. It might get a little crowded but it would save having to maintain several sets. Is there any disadvantage with 1 set (or a very low number)?

Or should I have a set for each eBay category or similar?

Cheers!

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Matthew Ogborne

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November 21, 2013 - 8:27 am
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Hi Dave,

The attribute sets should be based upon the variations that they contain.

For example Size, Colour and SizeColour would be the main attribute sets for eBay and Amazon.

However if you were selling clothing, you may also need TrousersizeColour and ChestsizeColour as well, because in specific categories on eBay, you have to call “Size” as “Trouser Size” or “Chest Size”.

Then add in the attributes that are applicable to each site.

Does that make sense?

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Dave1
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November 21, 2013 - 9:14 am
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Hi Matt,

Sorry, I’m even more baffled now! Embarassed

For example Size, Colour and SizeColour would be the main attribute sets for eBay and Amazon.

So which attributes would be in the “Size” attribute set? Just a single “Size” attribute? If so, I thought that you could only have 1 attribute set for each product (on a global level)

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Matthew Ogborne

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November 21, 2013 - 9:59 am
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Hi Dave,

Yes you can only assign one attribute set to a product, so you would have a set called “Default” which would be for products with no variations, a set called “Size” which has size as the variation and so on….

I think the bit that might be causing the confusion here is the use of eSellerPro. Unlike eSellerPro you create attributes, but those attributes can be assigned to more than one attribute set.

So let’s take an attribute called att_eby_brand (label called “Brand”), you can add this to both the the Default AND the Size attribute sets. Rather than what you would do in eSellerPro which is to have two customfield groups with two separate attributes called Brand.

Does that make sense?

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Dave1
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November 21, 2013 - 9:34 pm
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Cheers Matt, that’s making more sense now. I’m 90% there.

One more question though, is there any disadvantage/problem with having just a single default attribute set for all products, variation and non-variation?

We only have maybe 8 variation attributes. Can’t we lump them all into one attribute set and just leave them all blank for non-variation products and just fill in the relevant fields for variation products?

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Matthew Ogborne

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Howdy Dave,

Looks like you’re getting there. Maybe worth catching up on the phone and seeing where you’re at?

One more question though, is there any disadvantage/problem with having just a single default attribute set for all products, variation and non-variation?

Technically you can bundle all the variations into one attribute set, but I’d strongly advise against this and I’ll explain why.

The main reason is ease and I’ll elaborate on this for you. Let’s pick on Default (for non variations), Size and SizeColour attribute sets. When you need to add a product, you’ll immediately know which attribute set to add it to. So then filtering them later or importing the products via excel/CSV will be much easier to do.

Also the other main reason is because of the way that M2E works, to list products onto eBay you need to create a “Listing Group”, it’s at this group level that you assign policies and it’s in these policies that you assign the configurable attributes. So having 3 groups matching each attribute set, Default, Size, SizeColour makes it super easy to break up your listings into their appropriate types.

If I remember correctly you have multiple eBay accounts, so when it comes to these “Listing Groups” in M2E Pro, create one group called “eBayID1 – Default” and another group called “eBayID2 – Default”. This then adds further segmentation and allows you to manage your listings by type AND by ID as well.

Does that make sense?

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Hi Matt,

If you can afford the time it would be great to catch up on the phone, I have a load of questions!

That makes a lot more sense on the attribute sets too, thanks for the info.

Dave

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Matthew Ogborne

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Howdy Dave,

Popped my number over earlier. I’m about tomorrow if you’re free?

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Dave1
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Hi Matt,

Cheers! I’m free in the morning, I’ll give you a bell around 11am if that’s OK?

Dave

 

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