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Magento customisation and Linnworks
Leo

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January 14, 2014 - 10:42 am
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Hi All

I am relatively new to the scene but have been reading with interest all the good stuff going on – especially the 3rd generation stuff. If any of the below has been asked in another forum – I apologise in advance! Was not sure where to raise the topic.

My question right now is we want to keep our costs down by buying a magento theme that addresses most of our functional requirements and find a relaible person/company that can make the changes we need so we can launch the website quite quickly – make the assumption that we have zero technical knowldege. In addition we will have a presence on eBay that will reflect the same brand. We have been thinking of using Linnworks (initailly the free version) to pull orders from the magento website and ebay and hosting with Simple Servers (spoke with Simon from there yesterday – very nice guy)

So just reaching out to the experts to see if what we are proposing is costs effective or if there is an alternative setup

Also experience of using person/conpany to carry out the Magento customisation for us – ideally UK based that wont take us for a ride. The key thing that we want is minimum order quantity with tiered volume pricing (the more you buy the cheaper it is). Also the stock quantity to show a) stock in the UK b) stock arriving by in the UK in “x weeks time”. Sorry – we are stone importers!

I am just trying to go from A to B quite quickly and to avoid pitfallls along the way and happy to reach out to the forurm and any welcome advice / experience.

Thanks
Leo

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Dave Furness

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January 14, 2014 - 12:42 pm
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Howdy Leo

Thanks for stopping by to say hi and introduce yourself and your business.

Yea Simple Servers are really good, and Simon is a great guy!

On to your main question. Yes it is definitely viable to use a Magento theme to do the majority of the design work within Magento and then get a designer/developer to make bits of changes o what you want. We will be doing two whole sections on how to build a Magento responsive website for around $95 and also do the ultimate guide to outsourcing too. Both are unfortunately a few weeks/months away as we still need to get the core content finalised.

If you need more information sooner rather than later, let me know and I will have a chat with Matt and see if we have anything that might be of use in the mean time.

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Matthew Ogborne

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January 14, 2014 - 1:08 pm
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Hi Leo,

Don’t apologise, if you don’t know the answer, it’s never a daft question in our book :) (so ask away!)

To answer a couple of your specific questions.

find a relaible person/company that can make the changes we need so we can launch the website quite quickly

Always concerns me a little when something is in a rush, as it either means expensive or you won’t get want you really want longer term. So my advice here is get up to speed with Magento and know what is and is not possible out of the box, so that keeps the costs down and you won’t pay over the odds.

Also experience of using person/conpany to carry out the Magento customisation for us – ideally UK based that wont take us for a ride.

If it’s purely design changes, then dZine-Hub are my personal suggestion. Used them on countless projects, they know their stuff for Magento & eBay designs too.

The key thing that we want is minimum order quantity with tiered volume pricing (the more you buy the cheaper it is). Also the stock quantity to show a) stock in the UK b) stock arriving by in the UK in “x weeks time”. Sorry – we are stone importers!

Yay! This is already in Magento. Tiered pricing is in there since 1.7 and I’m pretty sure you can set dates too, but that would need to be checked.

Does that help you?

Matt

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Leo

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January 15, 2014 - 4:55 pm
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Hi Matt / Dave

MAGENTO

Thanks for both replies – take on board all the points. I am going to put a quick bullet point spec together (i.e. what the site must do day 1) and send it to some developers provided by Simon @ Simple Servers and to Dzine-Hub (thanks Matt) to get some idea of costs – However, from initial conversations I am getting quotes in the £2k to £4k mark which when you guys talk about $95 to be up and running with a Magento site (i.e. your forthcoming guides) – I guess I am asking the question – How?

For example looking at Dzine Hub their Magento offering starts from £1999 vs $95 – that’s a lot of difference.

I am not sure if I am being a simpleton here, but as the pricing spread is so wide, I am finding if difficult to get my head around it? So any comments that help me bridge this mental block would be welcome.

LINNWORKS

Also – I mentioned Linnworks in my initial post- do I assume this is not required if only looking to sell via the website and eBay.

Thanks in advance

Leo

Calum Roberts
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January 15, 2014 - 5:12 pm
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Hi Leo

I cna answer your price difference question easily

The £95 price for doing it yourself, is because you will be doing the work yourself wiht some hand holding on here using a pre built template from a theme website, themeforest in this example.

There are other site that you can buy off the shelf themes with and add functionality to them using magento extensions.

The price from dzine hub is for a bespoke design started from scratch by them with your exact specifications, so the site needs to be coded, designed and built from the ground up, that takes time and can be fairly expensive.

I was quoted around £5000 to have a website built from scratch, thats not for magento, using magento you have the basics there and ready to put a design on

Now bear in mind magento is resource intensive so you really need a decent host, im using simple server on a shared package and its quite good, i also have an off the shelf theme in place for my site with some extensions added and its been fairly cost effective. Though i do want my product page redesigned as i have a specific way i want it to look, so that will cost to have a new page built.

You can look around themeforest for example templates, and what they offer.

I bought mine from a company called webandpeople

hope some of that helps

Calum Roberts
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January 15, 2014 - 5:15 pm
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Also the free linnworks service is very limited to the amount of sales it allows.

And Linnworks prices are going up shortly by quite a bit i believe.

This is the point of this website here, to give an alternative that should cost less, thought there will be a monthly fee coming for the amazon side of M2Epro at some point

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Matthew Ogborne

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January 15, 2014 - 6:07 pm
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Hi Leo, Calum,

Thanks for chipping in there Calum. That’s the correct, one is bespoke one is off the shelf.

It really depends on how close the off the shelf gets you and whether you’re happy with that.

Personally, I’d rather see 4K spent on marketing and as little on the website as possible. As then you’re not 5K in the hole with no customers and a website without orders is “not great”. But that’s my line of thought :)

Does that help you?

Matt

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Dave Furness

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January 15, 2014 - 8:13 pm
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Hey Leo / Calum

Great answers there Calum, I couldn’t have put them better myself!

As for Linnworks Leo, what we are doing with Magento and M2E should give you all of the functionality you will need for inventory and order management across your website and eBay. So really Linnworks should not be necessary.

Also a quick note on the website, yes we can have a Magento website for $95 off the shelf, and then we can make a few coding tweaks to chop and change as we see fit. However if you wanted some changes made and didnt want to get hands on, it would be much MUCH cheaper to hire a magento designer to jump in and do some changes to the Theme rather than a bespoke build.

Putting a theme in puts a great framework in place to build off, rather than having to build from the ground up, which is where the ££££ quickly add up.

Dave

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Leo

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January 15, 2014 - 10:51 pm
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Hi Dave, Calum, Matt

Thanks for the heads up on this – all points noted, my comments..

Linnworks not needed – cool

Matt – yes agreed better to spend more of the available budget on marketing than pouring into new site – hence trying to find a cost effective entry for the Magento website

Calum – thanks for the link for template / hosting – I will have a look, its another avenue

So my approach

1. Buy magento theme – covering 80-90% of our requirements
2. Mock up the changes that we need so developer is 100% clear what we need
3. Find a good developer to make changes
4. Find good hosting provider (Simple Server)
5. Launch

It is point 3 that I need help with – I would have more faith in approaching a developer who has worked with some of the folk on this forum as I really dont have the appetite to farm this out to an “unknown” party using one of the crowd sourcing sites. Any names in the frame?

Thanks again.
Leo

Nick Davis

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January 15, 2014 - 11:02 pm
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We have been speaking to a company today, they suggested the Ultimo theme on Themeforest is a great one to work from, it has over 6000 purchases and seems to have some great off the shelf features, from reading the comments it would seem that the 18 months of upgrades means its almost bug-free.

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Dave Furness

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January 15, 2014 - 11:10 pm
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Yea, in the guides coming up where we look at building a Magento website, we will be using the Ultimo theme. It has a tonne of useful features and is responsive too which makes it perfect for tablets and mobiles.

Like Nick says it has been heavily tested and updated so not much to worry about there.

I know @Matthew Ogborne knows of a couple of developers who may be handy for this type of job but will need to check with him, which method would be best here

Dave

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Leo

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January 17, 2014 - 10:53 am
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Nick Davis said

We have been speaking to a company today, they suggested the Ultimo theme on Themeforest is a great one to work from, it has over 6000 purchases and seems to have some great off the shelf features, from reading the comments it would seem that the 18 months of upgrades means its almost bug-free.

Hi Nick

Are you planning to engage a company to undertake the customisation? If so I’d be interested to know how this develops. I recognise that Matt/Dave will be showcasing this in future guides, but if am honest I am very unlikely to do this myself and just need to find a person/company that will charge reasonably for specific customisation to meet our set of requirements. It would make sense to use this theme as it probably does cover most of what we need.

Cheers
Leo

Leo

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January 17, 2014 - 10:56 am
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Dave said

Yea, in the guides coming up where we look at building a Magento website, we will be using the Ultimo theme. It has a tonne of useful features and is responsive too which makes it perfect for tablets and mobiles.

Like Nick says it has been heavily tested and updated so not much to worry about there.

I know @Matthew Ogborne knows of a couple of developers who may be handy for this type of job but will need to check with him, which method would be best here

Dave

Hi Dave
Thanks for this -I’d be grateful for any contacts in this regard as I have have posted in my reply to Nick – if I am honest I would be looking to engage a developer to make the changes we require. If I can short circuit the search then that’s a huge time saver.
I will wait for Matt to pitch in.
Cheers
Leo

Leo

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January 28, 2014 - 2:17 pm
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Leo said

Dave said

Yea, in the guides coming up where we look at building a Magento website, we will be using the Ultimo theme. It has a tonne of useful features and is responsive too which makes it perfect for tablets and mobiles.

Like Nick says it has been heavily tested and updated so not much to worry about there.

I know @Matthew Ogborne knows of a couple of developers who may be handy for this type of job but will need to check with him, which method would be best here

Dave

Hi Dave
Thanks for this -I’d be grateful for any contacts in this regard as I have have posted in my reply to Nick – if I am honest I would be looking to engage a developer to make the changes we require. If I can short circuit the search then that’s a huge time saver.
I will wait for Matt to pitch in.
Cheers
Leo

Hi Matt

Appreciate your well busy…as and when you have a chance to shed some light on a couple of names of developers then that would allow me to start the ball moving to get the website up.
Thanks in advance
Leo

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Matthew Ogborne

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January 28, 2014 - 4:26 pm
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Hi Leo,

I’ve just left both of them messages on Skype and the reference Leo, they won’t be online until tomorrow morning (or very late tonight) and will pass them over your details.

Matt

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Leo

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January 29, 2014 - 10:28 pm
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Matthew Ogborne said

Hi Leo,

I’ve just left both of them messages on Skype and the reference Leo, they won’t be online until tomorrow morning (or very late tonight) and will pass them over your details.

Matt

Hi Matt

That’s very good of you – thanks a lot.

Regards
Leo

 

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