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toy_chief

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May 10, 2014 - 8:55 pm
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Hi guys,

I have a couple of questions about SimpleServers and their Magento installation. I am going to go with SimpleServers soon and get on with installing Magento – initially to manage my stock control and to list to eBay and Amazon. After I will be creating my own store. Ideally I want to go through a process of migrating images from my current host to be within the infrastructure of Magento. I’d prefer to start with a nice clean environment on SimpleServers without muddying it with things I am going to replace. So….

  • Does SimpleServers support sub-domains that point to another hosting provider so I can just leave my images where they are?
  • Must you have a domain parked with or pointing to SimpleServers to use Magento? If not then I guess Magento is not “bound” to a domain? Or is it bound to something like myaccount.simpleserver.com?
  • If it is bound to myaccount.simpleserver.com and I want to use my own domain later is it easy to change and therefore not have to be re-installed etc….?

Hopefully those are easy questions :-)
Cheers,
Andrew

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Matthew Ogborne

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May 11, 2014 - 10:18 am
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Howdy Andrew,

Your replies are below, the replies are not just specific to SimpleServers, the same would pretty much apply to any web hosting account.

Does SimpleServers support sub-domains that point to another hosting provider so I can just leave my images where they are?

Yes subdomains are supported. As for leaving images where they are, they need to be in that Magento installation for them to work.

You could use Magmi for example to bring them into the new web hosting.

Must you have a domain parked with or pointing to SimpleServers to use Magento? If not then I guess Magento is not “bound” to a domain? Or is it bound to something like myaccount.simpleserver.com?

Technically you could just use the hosting via an IP address (you’ll get this in the email when you register with them), but having a domain point to via DNS to the IP address or being managed by SimpleServers would be best.

If it is bound to myaccount.simpleserver.com and I want to use my own domain later is it easy to change and therefore not have to be re-installed etc….?

Assuming that you installed Magento using an IP address, you will need to update the database settings in Magento either through the admin section in System > Configuration > Web or in the database directly (see here or here).

Also as we found out a few weeks back you’ll also want to change the settings of the config file found in the downloader directory as well.

Hope that helps,

Matt

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toy_chief

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May 11, 2014 - 12:30 pm
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Hi Matt,

Thanks for the answers – a couple of follow-ups below:

Matthew Ogborne said
Does SimpleServers support sub-domains that point to another hosting provider so I can just leave my images where they are?

Yes subdomains are supported. As for leaving images where they are, they need to be in that Magento installation for them to work.
You could use Magmi for example to bring them into the new web hosting.

OK, so I have my images all on my domain. I have my eBay listings independent from Magento (I don’t have Magento yet!) and my independent Amazon listings. First step is I want to bring these both under stock control without breaking my eBay listings (Amazon will be unaffected of course). So how does Magmi work for bringing the images into the new hosting? Is it going to fetch my current images from my eBay listings (including the images embedded in the description part of the listing) and import them into the Magento system along with all the textual stuff? Does it then update the listings to correct the image URLs from the old to the new Magento system URLs?

Matthew Ogborne said
If it is bound to myaccount.simpleserver.com and I want to use my own domain later is it easy to change and therefore not have to be re-installed etc….?

Assuming that you installed Magento using an IP address, you will need to update the database settings in Magento either through the admin section in System > Configuration > Web or in the database directly (see here or here).

Also as we found out a few weeks back you’ll also want to change the settings of the config file found in the downloader directory as well.

OK – if I go with an IP address initially, import all my eBay listings so they are appropriately managed and the same with my Amazon ones by using Magmi, link them together, point the domain and finally change the base URL in Magento and follow the manual instructions above…… will the eBay item URLs get automatically updated without causing big heartaches? I just ask as I have rarely found things like this to run that smoothly in practice!

Cheers for your help!
Andrew

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Dave Furness

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May 11, 2014 - 1:31 pm
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Hey Andrew

I have just spoke to Matt about this, so lets see if we can answer your questions here:

OK, so I have my images all on my domain. I have my eBay listings independent from Magento (I don’t have Magento yet!) and my independent Amazon listings. First step is I want to bring these both under stock control without breaking my eBay listings (Amazon will be unaffected of course). So how does Magmi work for bringing the images into the new hosting? Is it going to fetch my current images from my eBay listings (including the images embedded in the description part of the listing) and import them into the Magento system along with all the textual stuff? Does it then update the listings to correct the image URLs from the old to the new Magento system URLs?

You can use Magmi to import the images, this is covered in this course from scratch on how to use Magmi, images are one part of this, the tutorial is here: https://understandinge.com/tutorial/imp-0011/ Actually getting the image URL’s, then I know Matt is working on EML to get these for you.

OK – if I go with an IP address initially, import all my eBay listings so they are appropriately managed and the same with my Amazon ones by using Magmi, link them together, point the domain and finally change the base URL in Magento and follow the manual instructions above…… will the eBay item URLs get automatically updated without causing big heartaches? I just ask as I have rarely found things like this to run that smoothly in practice!

Matt says just buy a domain name it’s £12 or less for a year or use a subdomain (which can be pointed to a diferent server). The answer is most likely yes to changing the images, but we both suggest just starting off with what you intend to right from the beginning, as it will make things much easier down the line.

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