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Got eBay and Amazon store but different SKU, What should I do now?
Jason G

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Hi Matt and Dave,

As most of the small online sellers, I met the problem of multi-channel selling stock sync problem. And eventually, I found you and understandinge. M2Epro seems match all I need :)

Currently, I have got 2 ebay stores and 1 Amazon store. My problem is all of them have different SKUs and about 15% different items. I haven’t got a Magento store set up yet but I have to get the following question solved before I move forward. Can you give me some advice?

My 1st question is can M2E sync 2 or more ebay stores? Possible to make them different listing template?

My 2nd question is, I got about 60 items on both Amazon and eBay with different SKUs. What is the right process to sync the stock to my Magento website? I really do not want to delete all of them and re-submit the listing. Especially for those with long time sale records. For the new stock, I guess M2E pro can handle it quite well, but how about the existing one?

Regards

Thanks for your help.

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May 7, 2014 - 1:56 pm
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Howdy Jason,

Happy days on finding us :)

Jason GX said
My 1st question is can M2E sync 2 or more ebay stores? Possible to make them different listing template?

Oh yes!

Get bedding in with the first account first so you know what’s going on. Then follow these steps

Go to System > Manage stores and add in another store view (eg my_other_ebay_account)
Go to Sell on eBay > Configuration and click on the accounts tab and add in the second eBay account, using the new storeview to collect orders

Then go to Sell on eBay > Listings > Create a new group and tailor the policies to fit the requirements for the second account and a different description policy, where the eBay listing template is stored is part of that.

Jason GX said
My 2nd question is, I got about 60 items on both Amazon and eBay with different SKUs. What is the right process to sync the stock to my Magento website? I really do not want to delete all of them and re-submit the listing. Especially for those with long time sale records. For the new stock, I guess M2E pro can handle it quite well, but how about the existing one?

Existing listings via Amazon are easily handled, you will need to do some ground work though to add in the missing information though.

Run an inventory export from Amazon, which will give you ASIN, sku, price, qty and condition, use this as a base to import them into Magento (this is the part where you’ll need to add in the missing information, Magmi is my suggestion for this).

The key to Amazon is the ASIN, if you have this you’re laughing as it’s then a case of matching them accordingly.

With regards to eBay, matching existing lists with no variations is easy, see the 3rd party listings tab in Sell on eBay > Listings. Variation listings are trickier, it’s a mixed bag if I’m honest on being able to match them up as it is with any 3rd party tool.

Does that help you Jason?

Matt

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Jason GX said

Hi Matt and Dave,

As most of the small online sellers, I met the problem of multi-channel selling stock sync problem. And eventually, I found you and understandinge. M2Epro seems match all I need :)

Currently, I have got 2 ebay stores and 1 Amazon store. My problem is all of them have different SKUs and about 15% different items. I haven’t got a Magento store set up yet but I have to get the following question solved before I move forward. Can you give me some advice?

My 1st question is can M2E sync 2 or more ebay stores? Possible to make them different listing template?

My 2nd question is, I got about 60 items on both Amazon and eBay with different SKUs. What is the right process to sync the stock to my Magento website? I really do not want to delete all of them and re-submit the listing. Especially for those with long time sale records. For the new stock, I guess M2E pro can handle it quite well, but how about the existing one?

Regards

Thanks for your help.

Yes you can have multiple accounts on eBay.

Yes you can make different listing templates. Yo can make different listing templates for individual products as well as categories of products.

Re submitting the listing on ebay through M2E Pro, once configured correctly is literally a few clicks of a button. Importing the listing from eBay I found to be painful and untidy in my magento. Yu have no control on what gets pulled over in terms of url and information, well thats what i found.

You would be better off configuring magento and M2E Pro and uploading from magento to eBay.

You can totally customise the whole process as well.

Hope that helps.

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Matt you beat me to it, I havent had the pleasure of Amazon and Play yet…….so my knowledge of that is minimal if not none.

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Jason G

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May 7, 2014 - 2:09 pm
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Hi Matt,

Thanks for the quickkkkkk reply :) I am now feeling much more confident with M2E pro. Well. I may have to spend some time on MAGMI.

OK, If I am right the process is following this process. I export the Amazon store information first as excel file. And then upload it to Magento. Basically, my webstore and Amazon shop is synced. I bet the SKU in Magento now should the same as my Amazon SKU.

Well, unluckily most of my items are with Variation. So, when I sync these items to my ebay shops, there is still a possible way to “match” them one by one, is that right? To be honest, I don’t mind do them one by one, it is just a time issue. I really do not want to delete those with a long time “sold record”.

Jason G

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May 7, 2014 - 2:17 pm
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Hi Dom,

Thanks for the reply. If I am right, you suggest upload from magento to ebay rather then from ebay to magento. Although I may lost some of my long time listing items, I will get much more tidy and good organised SKUs and listings.

Am I right?

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Hi Jason

Whilst in testing I imported the products and to me it looked untidy. If you dont have that many items then it might be easier to manually change them in magento. I had too many to change in the 1000s.

When I myself do go live with the integration I will be deleting all products on ebay and re uploading them via magento.

Matt might have a better answer than me.

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Matthew Ogborne

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May 7, 2014 - 2:27 pm
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Howdy Jason,

Magmi is a learning curve, just focus on getting one product to work and the tutorials will help you massively.

If you can do one product, the rest is mustard :)

OK, If I am right the process is following this process. I export the Amazon store information first as excel file. And then upload it to Magento. Basically, my webstore and Amazon shop is synced. I bet the SKU in Magento now should the same as my Amazon SKU.

Ah in this case you’ll need to populate in the missing information, the original Amazon import sheets will come in really handy and if you don’t have them then that’s the part that’s going to take you some time to get right and create them as configurable and simple products in Magento.

I know how much of a baw-ache this is to do, if you keep your eBay listings in mind while you’re doing this, it will be a task to do, but you’ll come out better on the other side.

Matt
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Dom Rand
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Matthew Ogborne said

@Dom Rand may be on the next one? :D

Challenge accepted

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Jason G

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Hi Matt and Rom,

Thanks for the information above. it is quite clear what I have to do now.

First step is make all Amazon listings populated with missing information. (Matt, do you have a tutorial about this? What kind of information Magento need from Amazon?)

Secondly export them in the excel sheet and upload to magento. Will magento grab the pictures from Amazon as well?

Last step is delete all ebay listing in my ebay shops and sync all new listings. I better do it at midnight when no one using eBay.

Job done :)

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Where are your pictures hosted?

There is an extension that allows external images to be used.

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Jason G

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They are all hosted by Amazon. It sounds like I have to get the picture one by one, M2E pro can not sync pictures.

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Jason GX said

They are all hosted by Amazon. It sounds like I have to get the picture one by one, M2E pro can not sync pictures.

I am not sure as havent even touched Amazon yet.

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Matthew Ogborne

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Jason GX said

They are all hosted by Amazon. It sounds like I have to get the picture one by one, M2E pro can not sync pictures.

Howdy Jason,

Ouchy, Amazon doesn’t like remote scripts grabbing the images, hence Magmi is unable to pull them down.

I haven’t looked into exactly why, I suspect because no user agent or general web browser headers are not being included and Amazon reject the request because of that.

Grabbing the images from Amazon by other means (say an imacros script, using curl in PHP, manually or even via their API) is possible.

Being curious as I am, just found that the command in Magmi is using the statemanager.php file and function chmod here:

https://github.com/dweeves/magmi-git/blob/647a4dfe9bc4a5858a558a55c15743c4b73c1e10/magmi/inc/magmi_statemanager.php

I think by just adding in a new custom function that uses curl instead may get past the blocks on Amazon, but that does need me to look at it properly.

Matt

PS. I have just written this on my white board as this would be a huge win for us all.

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Jason G

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Hi Matt,

Thanks for the help. I have spent a few days on basic magento and m2e pro. It is huge work for me to learn from zero. It seems magento is quite a strong onlineshop software. But for M2E pro, I have a question about the fees they will charge. I have read some post in the last drop of ink, you know some guys who are working in m2e pro uk. They said they will start charging fees in summer 2014 and it is based on the sales recoed.

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Do you have any idea how much they will charge for this service?

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Howdy Jason,

The guys at M2E Pro are great with us here at UnderstandingE and have always been quick to help us out.

Unfortunately there plans for charging for M2E Pro are 100% their business and we have no input or say in this at all. The eBay side of M2E will remain free as it is still subsidised by eBay and it is the Amazon functionality that will be chargeable.

We do not know what numbers they are thinking of, but there is a plan B if we think the numbers don’t make sense. To give you an idea, Plan B is a one off fee of 300 Euros I believe, so it will be a basic maths question for us.

As soon as we know, you will know too :)

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Interesting, I havent tried to sync to Amazon or Play so dont know how hard it is or what features we need BUT if the extension is in beta and works fine what makes me want to move to a paid version. Or would it be across the board that the amazon and play extension would be paid for no matter what version.

I do love software companies that give something for free, you are basically their guinea pig, testing stability, making suggestions for new features acting as their R&D department. You support them from the very beginning and then, BAM they have taken the ideas, designed the extension and want you to pay for it. You use their software and become dependant on it.

I would rather have a yearly charge than a charge dependant on sales.

Not sure if they have already tried this, but I guess they have, is approach Amazon and Play like they did with eBay and get subsidised from them.

So with this new charge to sell one product via my website via M2E Pro I need to take these into consideration

Amazon Fees – Subscription Fee – Referral Fee and a closing fee
Payment Fees
NEW – M2E Pro Fees

Another point as well, if i am being charged to use Amazon and Play, and we list and do sell a considerable amount of stock some 10k to 16k items a month through ebay with 1/10th of our stock listed, would I still need have

to Pay M2E Pro for sales through Play and Amazon and also pay for one of their support packages? If i am paying a % that could run into 1,000s of £ per month or year for M2E Pro.

I do suppose that nothing in this world is free, I will wait and see what features M2E Pro comes up with for Amazon and Play that warrants them charging a fee. And whether we can cope without being on Amazon and Play.

Rant over for Thursday morning

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Howdy Dom,

Just for the record, we want M2E to start charging for Amazon.

This is for a couple of reasons, the main one being it becomes a known value and also to expediate the development process for them (funds help massively with that).

When it comes to pricing, there are a few ways it can be done and I’m sure you’ve already seen the variations.

I personally very much doubt that it will be a percentage of sale from previous conversations with M2E, rather based upon sales volume, the more you sell, the more you’re hammering the system which is a fair method.

Also for the record we like M2EPro a lot, if it makes sense to use them for Amazon that’s the approach we’ll take (ie the balance between support, features, speed and depth of integration into Magento) and as Dave mentioned there are alternatives too.

Right time for coffee and to wind the kids up before they go to school :)

Matt

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Matthew Ogborne said

Howdy Dom,

Just for the record, we want M2E to start charging for Amazon.

This is for a couple of reasons, the main one being it becomes a known value and also to expediate the development process for them (funds help massively with that).

When it comes to pricing, there are a few ways it can be done and I’m sure you’ve already seen the variations.

I personally very much doubt that it will be a percentage of sale from previous conversations with M2E, rather based upon sales volume, the more you sell, the more you’re hammering the system which is a fair method.

Also for the record we like M2EPro a lot, if it makes sense to use them for Amazon that’s the approach we’ll take (ie the balance between support, features, speed and depth of integration into Magento) and as Dave mentioned there are alternatives too.

Right time for coffee and to wind the kids up before they go to school :)

Matt

Morning

I like M2E Pro as well. I was amazed that it was free to begin with. I do hope that part of their fees, especially to power sellers, like ourselves, would have some sort of support along side it and just not the free support. ie you use ebay only and want extra support you pay. You use ebay play and amazon and a lot of products, that there is additional support offered dependant on the fees you are being charged, not just the option to buy support as they already have. On some sort of scale, ie you fee to M2E Pro for Amazon and Play is £500 per month on average, that gets you silver, £1000 per month gold etc or something similiar.

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