For a bit of fun, any predictions on the future happy hour topics? Winner gets a signed cup of coffee ;)
The repository of tools/programs as suggested somewhere else
Another open mic when Matt/Dave run out of ideas
Something with Jim when the shipeasy/pickpack tutorials are finished
One dedicated to responsive templates
And hopefully an introduction to exportmylistings.com when that goes live
As a follow up to this topic, but on a tangent, is it possble to have a “Happy Hour Thread”.
Reason behind the thinking is we cover a lot of topics / chatbox questions every “HH” and some times it can be hard to take it all in.
Questions come in via the chatbox whilst Matt or Dave are covering a different topic and are covered a few minutes later when you get chance to scroll back.
In the mean time other answers from members have been flying into the chat box , but it can be difficult to know which question an answer is referring to.
Case in point:- I asked last night about “collating” info.
Matt covered the point well, and I also saw some members throwing suggestions into the chat box.
I didn’t know if they were applicable to my question, but copied anything that came in to notepad.
After the “HH” I spent 30 minutes reviewing online from the notes taken, installed import.io and spent another half hour “training” it for the data collection I wanted.
I now have a free app that will collect virtually all the data I require with Ctrl V and one click.
It doesn’t copy the product description, but does import name, all bullets, current price, weight, dimensions etc., just from adding a reference number to a dataset.
Obviously this is only reference material, but it will cut down time and help creating product listings.
So firstly, a Happy Hour Hat Tip to whoever suggested import.io in the chatbox – thank you sir.
Secondly, I know that the meeting videos are available to view, but if we had a thread relating to Happy Hour meetings, members could follow up / re-ask on something discussed during the meeting, especially when an answer comes to mind 10 minutes after the meeting has finished..
Just an idea, don’t know what other attendees think. Anyway, thanks for another couple hours enjoyable chat last night.
Another issue with the Happy Hours is a lot is said and forgotten. Case in point is i do not think there is enough hours in the day fro Matt & Dave. But i understand why they want to go monthly and i guess they want to shove a quality meeting to us not a washer women’s fence chatting session; but do not get time.
But also on a down side we have had Happy Hours where’re Matt / Dave asked for ideas and a lot was listed by member’s in the chat box. I remember Shipping coming up by several member’s and mentioned and it was noted by Matt and Dave. But we have never covered it and i guess it is because it is very complex and the guys do not have time. Also the other subjects have not been covered, so we are not recording them or it is as i think a time issue.
So what we never covered last night was Matt & Dave said what they wanted to do “Monthly”but everybody said NO NO we like out weekly meetings. But ask yourselves what are we getting out of a 2 hour open mic session every-week?
We cover the same stuff time and time again ask the same questions of Matt and Dave (me included)
When are getting Responsive Template
When are we covering Pick Pack ShipEasy
When are the Amazon videos being done
When is Export my Listings coming etc etc
The guys try to placate people but there is only 24 hours in a day and 2 of them (Matt would like 92 hours in a day i think)
But if we are talking about being productive is Happy Hour in that arena? Yes i am being the devils advocate but it needs discussing.
We could have a poll of subjects that should be covered
We could sort out the last 7 days big issues in the forum and Matt / Dave could show us how to fix them.
We just need to know this is 96 hours live time and approx 208 hours behind the scenes or 38 x 8 hour working days.
If we are getting the same questions and the same time moving answers.
Not covering subjects we want (due to time constraints of Matt & Dave)
I know these are great chats and very friendly and funny (i never miss them)
But putting my Devils head back on are they worth the investment?
PS If you all starting to make effigies of me to stick pins in for being boring then its kewl i have thick skin.
I have posted this for debate only not to be critical.
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+1 to what Dale is saying.
Although I can’t work out if he is playing Devil’s Advocate, or from seeing his chatbox comments does actually have a Devil’s head he wears in the evenings, to go with his thick skin :-)
Either way, might be a reason for having the thread so we can catch up amongst ourselves with Matt & Dave overseeing (overlording?) as and when.
I think open question Happy Hour can be informative and over time they will not run 2 hours. I think we have elongated some of them with our banter. But once you take out the “planned” theme for the week on all open discussion Happy Hours and if all the members that participate in the Happy Hour can spent just 5 minutes thinking of some questions prior to start, it can be a bit more than the usual update questions we have seen.
I think this week’s Happy Hour showed toward the end what can be learned, such as iMacros. I also think that any of us that participate on a regular basis have something to bring to the table, maybe email Matt or Dave and they can slot that member into one of the Happy Hour sessions.
I think the key is to take the prep work time away from Matt and Dave and put some of it on us. Once a few new questions flow into the meeting it will take a bit of a life on its own with new ideas and questions. Member demos of utilities is another way to do that. Matt’s impromptu IMacro demo and Google Chrome utilities are both things I am adding to my arsenal.
My 2 cents worth
I’m off on a little tangent as well I really do think a chat facility on eith er the site or INC would be really helpful after all we are probably all on the PC’s during the day (and evening). I personally use IRC a lot and it really does help to just jump on and ask a question.
P.s can I request a happy hour every Wednesday at 8.46.
I use IRC as well and yes it is great. But i use another forum a lot and it was found that when IRC was started all the questions and answers done in IRC never get back into the forums. So you end up with duplication on a massive scale, you can get the same question asked everyday for weeks.
In a forum question answer done.
IRC has it place and as a addon would be great.
But who runs it and at the expense of what else.
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I think the bigger problem with IRC is that it would keep people out. It is a bit Nerdy and it also has a bit of a reputation of being the dark side of the Internet.
I think the use of a professional software with build in show and tell and moderator functions brings a level of professionalism to the table that can help to continue to build a community that participates on a weekly basis.
Loving this chat guys keep it up please!
I get the point of IRC, yes having a instant message feature would be nice, Dale is spot on and we do run the risk of duplication of forums, and it can look a little nerdy / dark web.
But the key thing here is it would allow you guys to all talk to each other and not necessarily need me or Matt to be there, and we can jump in and out when we can.
The problem does arise with making sure me and Matt turn up…the way Matt is working recently on his book and the extensions and software pieces he is building it will just be seen as an extension of the forums which are going to take up more resource from us and like someone said above, risk duplication.
Loving the line of thought here though and i’m sure we can come up with a handy solution amongst us
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Seems like I’ve sparked a meaningful debate from a joke topic. Glad to have been helpful.
I do find the happy hours very useful, I always learn something and there is too much to take in but some of it is usually a preview of something that’s coming up in the near future so there’s always a chance to catch up, plus they are posted on youtube eventually so you can review what’s been said (minus the swearing and chat box).
To be honest I can only stick around until 9.30ish so I usually miss that last part, I didn’t realise you guys kept going for so much longer.
Howard, regarding import.io that was me, I have this dream of an import.io/magmi/magento system that runs itself. 4 hour work week etc… They also do webinars and they are very good as they run in a similar format to the understandinge ones, you can ask questions and get answers straight away rather than the slightly slower email/forum support.
Kimono does a similar job so it’s worth looking into as well, you can schedule it to run hourly/weekly/whenever.
I also agree that IRC is a bit nerdy and wouldn’t come back to the forums, and it’s harder to moderate without having someone sensible there 24/7. It can also be a distraction and make you less productive if you sit there watching people talking about their issues whilst not doing anything else yourself.
I remember Matt and Dave thanking a couple of you for being active in the forums and helping people last week. I was on holiday last week (and I did read a book actually, I finished Dale Carnegie’s book), I don’t mind helping people at all but it’s got to be a two way thing, I’ve seen some people come onto the forums and bluntly ask a load of questions, then after them put stuff like “respond quickly”, and then disappear after they’ve been helped. If I`m giving value I think it’s fair for me to receive some back, and I get this from the happy hour much more than I do in the forum, everyone (that talks at least) seems willing to help each other out which is what a community is about.
It’s a community that I`m paying to be a part of, so I want it to be a worthwhile investment, the happy hour and the guides are very good value for money in my opinion and I’d like to see the understandinge team keep working at this ferocious pace to bring out new content, I think they are doing a fantastic job.
Going back to the topic of duplication, there are huge amounts of this in the forum, the search facility could be promoted a bit more as many people seem to be coming up with the same problem again and again. An FAQ at the top of the page might alleviate some of these questions and give Matt and Dave some of their time of day back.
Apologies for the essay.
I agree that there are a lot of one way communications on the forums. It is what it is and I think it is not unique to this site. However, the more people join the forums, the more of a chance you have to get more people involved as a community. That is where I believe the weekly chats bring the active community together. Anyone that takes the time to participate in the weekly meetings obviously is more serious about their business and of being here and using this resource for guidance.
I agree with the comment about people will jump on ask a question and it won’t get into the forum however the logs can be imported. I disagree a little about it being the dark side it was many years ago when you could download Microsoft office for free lol.
I personally find it difficult to navigate the forums and find information and sometimes find myself asking the same questions twice as I cannot remember where it was posted. Also it’s difficult to find where to post the majority of comments because in particular magento and m2epro overlap so much.
I will go with the flow
Then thank you, sir.
I spent 1/2 an hour having a quick check over iMacros, Kimono, Import.io, Scraper (Chrome plugin), etc. and thought I would give the Import.io a try going for the least amount of Nerd required option (and it being free).
I am sure it can do loads more than I have set it up for, but as I say, 1 hour spent last night and 10 minutes today showing a member of staff what to do, has already saved me a few hours.
I will watch this thread with interest.
I started off with import.io but I roped my brother (programmer) in to help me by writing a custom scraper for me that takes all the info from a suppliers site, puts it into the relevant CSV, and formats it for magmi. He’s used (nerd alert) selenium and said he’d found it enjoyable but challenging. Automating this side of things can save you hours and hours of manual data entry.
Understand your frustration with some of the Forum posts, like Richard said, this is just the nature of forums, as the most active members of the community you are going to notice this. and don’t think me and Matt don’t notice it too.
We really appreciate the support and knowledge that you all take the time out to share, and as the community grows there will be more and more who join the active community. Some people are just not too familiar with Forums yet and don’t understand the familiar faces/ names that give up a lot of their time.
That is just one of those things sadly.
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